(のれん)(うでお)

のれんにうでおし
expression
futile effort; wasted effort; like pushing against a curtain
proverb
1. futile effort; wasted effort; getting no reaction
An idiom describing a situation where one's efforts produce no response or resistance, like pushing against a soft curtain — the action is pointless because there is nothing to push back.
(なに)()って暖簾(のれん)腕押(うでお)しだ。
No matter what I say, it's like talking to a wall.
あの(ひと)注意(ちゅうい)して暖簾(のれん)腕押(うでお)しだ
Warning that person is a waste of effort.
I continued the negotiations, but it was a futile effort and there was no progress at all.

One of Japan's most well-known proverbs. A 暖簾(のれん) is the split fabric curtain hung at the entrance of shops and restaurants. Pushing against it produces no resistance — your arm just goes through — making the act pointless. Used when someone is unresponsive or unmoved by your attempts to persuade, argue with, or influence them.

Common collocations

  • 暖簾(のれん)腕押(うでお)しだ: it's a wasted effort
  • 暖簾(のれん)腕押(うでお)()わる: to end in futility

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